THE GURU

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  1. Sant Singh

    This is interesting. I never knew there was such a thing. But can’t recall which verse in Gurbani is close to it. There are quite a bit of verses in Gurbani which are similar to this. Great!

  2. Avtar Singh Dhaliwal

    It is good to have relative discussion of other scriptures in reference to the Gurbani.
    Fundamental difference in calling three Hindu Deities (Brahma, Vishnu, and Mahesh-Mahadev-Shiva) as God is not recommended in the Gurbani.
    The God in Gurbani is non-anthropomorphic (Ajooni) and these three are creation of Maya (Aeka Maee jugat viaee, tin chaelae parvaan. Guru Nanak Japji).
    Guru AmarDas ji clarified their role in the humanity as:
    ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਬਿਸਨੁ ਮਹਾਦੇਉ ਤ੍ਰੈ ਗੁਣ ਰੋਗੀ ਵਿਚਿ ਹਉਮੈ ਕਾਰ ਕਮਾਈ ॥
    Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva suffer from the disease of the three gunas – the three qualities; they do their deeds in egotism.
    ਜਿਨਿ ਕੀਏ ਤਿਸਹਿ ਨ ਚੇਤਹਿ ਬਪੁੜੇ ਹਰਿ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸੋਝੀ ਪਾਈ ॥੨॥
    The poor fools do not remember the One who created them; this understanding of the Lord is only obtained by those who become Gurmukh. ||2||
    — Sri Guru Granth Sahib, Ang 852
    No doubt, that these deities are worshiped by 1.3 billion hindus all over the world to get materialistic satisfaction, because they are afraid of reincarnation prompted by their philosophy. However, in Gurbani these deities are not considered unique. Because Guru Sahib wrote, “ਕੋਟਿ ਬਿਸਨ ਕੀਨੇ ਅਵਤਾਰ ॥
    He created millions of incarnations of Vishnu.
    ਕੋਟਿ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੰਡ ਜਾ ਕੇ ਧ੍ਰਮਸਾਲ ॥
    He created millions of universes as places to practice righteousness.
    ਕੋਟਿ ਮਹੇਸ ਉਪਾਇ ਸਮਾਏ ॥
    He created and destroyed millions of Shivas.
    ਕੋਟਿ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੇ ਜਗੁ ਸਾਜਣ ਲਾਏ ॥੧॥
    He employed millions of Brahmas to create the worlds. ||1||
    — Sri Guru Granth Sahib, Ang 115
    The Gurbani claims SABD as the Guru and the the TRUTH incorporated in it.

  3. Geeta Kaur

    Thank you for the Sanskrit Shalok reference. From Gurbani, It is my understanding that there are many paths that lead to the One Parbraham.

    To answer your question, the couplet that immediately came to mind is Pauri 5 in JapJi Sahib., which I copy/ pasted below, from http://www.srigranth.org.

    ਗੁਰੁ ਈਸਰੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਗੋਰਖੁ ਬਰਮਾ ਗੁਰੁ ਪਾਰਬਤੀ ਮਾਈ ॥
    Gur īsar gur gorakẖ barmā gur pārbaṯī mā▫ī.
    The Guru is Shiva, the Guru is Vishnu and Brahma; the Guru is Paarvati and Lakhshmi.

    ਜੇ ਹਉ ਜਾਣਾ ਆਖਾ ਨਾਹੀ ਕਹਣਾ ਕਥਨੁ ਨ ਜਾਈ ॥
    Je ha▫o jāṇā ākẖā nāhī kahṇā kathan na jā▫ī.
    Even knowing God, I cannot describe Him; He cannot be described in words.

    ਗੁਰਾ ਇਕ ਦੇਹਿ ਬੁਝਾਈ ॥
    Gurā ik ḏehi bujẖā▫ī.
    The Guru has given me this one understanding:

    ਸਭਨਾ ਜੀਆ ਕਾ ਇਕੁ ਦਾਤਾ ਸੋ ਮੈ ਵਿਸਰਿ ਨ ਜਾਈ ॥੫॥
    Sabẖnā jī▫ā kā ik ḏāṯā so mai visar na jā▫ī. ||5||
    there is only the One, the Giver of all souls. May I never forget Him! ||5||

  4. Dilawar S. Dhatt

    To my understanding starting slok of Sukhmani Sahib is the best way to explain
    ਆਦਿ ਗੁਰਏ ਨਮਹ ॥
    आदि गुरए नमह ॥
    Āḏ gur▫e namah.
    I bow to the Primal Guru.

    ਜੁਗਾਦਿ ਗੁਰਏ ਨਮਹ ॥
    जुगादि गुरए नमह ॥
    Jugāḏ gur▫e namah.
    I bow to the Guru of the ages.

    ਸਤਿਗੁਰਏ ਨਮਹ ॥
    सतिगुरए नमह ॥
    Saṯgur▫e namah.
    I bow to the True Guru.

    ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰਦੇਵਏ ਨਮਹ ॥੧॥
    स्री गुरदेवए नमह ॥१॥
    Sarī gurḏev▫e namah. ||1||
    I bow to the Great, Divine Guru. ||1||

  5. Dr. Sarv Preet Singh

    I am extremely upset and dissapointed with this new turn that AWAT is taking or like to take.
    The reason is simple that Guru Nanak Sahib has taken us out of the mud of gods and goddesses including the concept of Brahma, Shiv and Mahesh etc. To us The Guru is Akalpurakh and His message, teachings, wisdom and attributes are in the Shabad Guru (GURU GRANTH SAHIB). This Guru is authentic and does need need support or authentication from another granth or book. We can compare for interest sake only if we know the full shabad, chapter or verse. Just using a word or a couple of lines and trying to create a similarity is totally misleading. When AWAT uses a word from Guru Granth Sahib we can easily go to the whole shabad or related ones to get further clarification. This couplet from another book does not fit in with Guru Nanak’ philosophy as other people have already mentioned.
    I would be totally against this idea. Please do not take this turn or move in that direction.
    An avid reader and supporter of AWAT

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